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>> i thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. without he have been more su successful if he had gone for somebody else? >> that is sectiond guessing i don't know. instead of getting 27% of the latino vote, you may have gotten 25 or 40. the facts are we didn't make it. he have a good person, smart guy. who would you like to see in 16 of all of the current candidates? >> i'll tell you, who is the kinder person? jeb bush? >> can i bush do it again? i don't know. >> maybe against a clinton. >> what i want more than anything is to bring this thing together. i want you to ask people about the regulatory wall. if we don't get natural gas and oil out there. we have a chance to make this the american century. if we have are the low cost energy producer in the world. america can have it. i've said before, this is the internet of this century now. it is a huge opportunity. we are in the first inning. >> well, great to talk to you. thank you for coming in. you volunteered yourself good to see you again. when we come back, latest from the sto
>> i thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. without he have been more su successful if he had gone for somebody else? >> that is sectiond guessing i don't know. instead of getting 27% of the latino vote, you may have gotten 25 or 40. the facts are we didn't make it. he have a good person, smart guy. who would you like to see in 16 of all of the current candidates? >> i'll tell you, who is the kinder person? jeb bush? >> can i bush do it again? i don't know. >>...
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my big question is what role does paul ryan play in all of this. he is a national figure and said no new taxes and john boehner is going to have to try and lead compromises in his caucus. >> do you see the prom prcompro possible? >> here is the thing. in the olden days i used to say, you know what they are going to end up doing the wrong thing. i know longer think that. i believe they could retreat into their corners. it is into their self interest to get things done. as you looked at the landscape, do you see any likelihood that members will be able to come together and work on climate change and tax reform? >> i do. i'm opt miss triimistic that we go over the fiscal cliff that you better not let us do this that you are going to throw us into a recession next year. they are not crazy. they will act out of some sense of the national interest here. you have to be careful not to isolate the question of tax hikes on the wealthy. you need to put that question into a broader framework. how do we raise revenues. and how do we get spending down through en
my big question is what role does paul ryan play in all of this. he is a national figure and said no new taxes and john boehner is going to have to try and lead compromises in his caucus. >> do you see the prom prcompro possible? >> here is the thing. in the olden days i used to say, you know what they are going to end up doing the wrong thing. i know longer think that. i believe they could retreat into their corners. it is into their self interest to get things done. as you looked...
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my big question, what role does paul ryan play in all of this. he's pretty far out there a national figure, said no new taxes and john boehner will have to try and lead some compromises in his own caucus with a new national leader. >> do you see compromise as possible? because of the fiscal cliff. >> here is the thing. in the olden days when i covered the congress, i used to say, they will end up doing the right thick. i no longer think that. i now believe they could all retreat into their corners, only thing that gives me hope it's in their own self-interest to get this done. >> it's in everyone's self interest. david, as you survey the landscape of the incoming congress, any likelihood that members will be able to come together, work with the president on immigration reform, climate change, tax reform, entitlement reform? >> i do, anderson. i'm increasingly optimistic we won't go over the fiscal cliff. the sharp drop in the markets today send a clear signal to congress and the president that you guys better not let us do this. that you will thr
my big question, what role does paul ryan play in all of this. he's pretty far out there a national figure, said no new taxes and john boehner will have to try and lead some compromises in his own caucus with a new national leader. >> do you see compromise as possible? because of the fiscal cliff. >> here is the thing. in the olden days when i covered the congress, i used to say, they will end up doing the right thick. i no longer think that. i now believe they could all retreat...
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they already have paul ryan as the winner. do you agree with these polls? >> not that one i certainly don't. vice president biden has a big heart. he's going to tell the truth tonight. which is going to, i think expose to the nation the extreme positions of this paul ryan and his budget. >> we have a short time together. and i want to stick to the debate and not the talking points when it comes to them. let's stick to the question and end. >> and that's tonight's no talking points. the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone, but her... likes 50% more cash. but, i have an idea. do you want a princess dress? yes how about some cupcakes? yes lollipop? yes! do you want an etch a sketch? yes! do you want 50% more cash? no you got talent. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card. with a 50% annual cash bonus it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? i usually say that. >>> theoretically, the federal reserve is independent of the president and the federal branch of the government. the presiden
they already have paul ryan as the winner. do you agree with these polls? >> not that one i certainly don't. vice president biden has a big heart. he's going to tell the truth tonight. which is going to, i think expose to the nation the extreme positions of this paul ryan and his budget. >> we have a short time together. and i want to stick to the debate and not the talking points when it comes to them. let's stick to the question and end. >> and that's tonight's no talking...
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they already have paul ryan as the winner. do you agree with these polls? >> not that one i certainly don't. vice president biden has a big heart. he's going to tell the truth tonight. which is going to, i think expose to the nation the extreme positions of this paul ryan and his budget. >> we have a short time together. and i want to stick to the debate and not the talking points when it comes to them. let's stick to the question and end. >> and that's tonight's no talking points. for a golf getaway. double miles you can actually use... but mr. single miles can't join his friends because he's getting hit with blackouts. shame on you. now he's stuck in a miniature nightmare. oh, thank you. but, with the capital one venture card... you can fly any airline, any flight, any time. double miles you can actually use. what's in your wallet? alec jr? it was a gift. how did i get here? dumb luck? or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made. about marriage. children. money. about tomorrow. here's to good decisions. who matters most to you says the most abo
they already have paul ryan as the winner. do you agree with these polls? >> not that one i certainly don't. vice president biden has a big heart. he's going to tell the truth tonight. which is going to, i think expose to the nation the extreme positions of this paul ryan and his budget. >> we have a short time together. and i want to stick to the debate and not the talking points when it comes to them. let's stick to the question and end. >> and that's tonight's no talking...
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you've got paul ryan going to pennsylvania. we'll find out on tuesday which side of right. >> all right, paul steinhauser. thank you for being her. >>> the victims of hurricane sandy, you can bet that the election is not top in their minds. but there are plenty of determined voters. national correspondent susan candiotti is very hard hit. what measures are being taken to try and make sure that people there are able to vote? >> well, the first thing i can tell you, fred is that more than 143,000 people just in this one bourough alone will not be going to the usual polling places that they are used to. here's why. just take a look around. i am right now walking on a boardwalk. a chunk of a boardwalk that is running 90 degrees perpendicular to where it used to be, behind me, running along the ocean. huge chunks of a boardwalk that has broken up and is now running down side streets of new york. homes here along the water front, due to flooding, people on their own have dragged all this out to the street. they have no power, look at
you've got paul ryan going to pennsylvania. we'll find out on tuesday which side of right. >> all right, paul steinhauser. thank you for being her. >>> the victims of hurricane sandy, you can bet that the election is not top in their minds. but there are plenty of determined voters. national correspondent susan candiotti is very hard hit. what measures are being taken to try and make sure that people there are able to vote? >> well, the first thing i can tell you, fred is...
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i don't see politics in his future. >> what about paul ryan? will he just pick up where he left off? or do you see him broaden out? claim the mantle of the party standard bear. >> he has time. listen, he has something that is very hard for a house member to get and that is nationwide recognition. he is also a bonafide brainiac when it comes to budget things. you may not agree with what he likes to do with the budget, but he understands the budget. so there is still a place for him there. he does speak for the conservative win in the fiscal part, and also very pragmatic. i think he can -- there has been talk, maybe he should go to a thinktank, hang out for a while. think big thoughts. it's a nice spot, he clearly wanted to keep it if he wasn't going to get the vice presidency. i think he's young. 41 or 42. i think he's one of the contenders when you look four years from now, if that's the route he wants to go. >> candy crowley appreciate it, gloria borger, thanks for joining me. joining me now, former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. thank you
i don't see politics in his future. >> what about paul ryan? will he just pick up where he left off? or do you see him broaden out? claim the mantle of the party standard bear. >> he has time. listen, he has something that is very hard for a house member to get and that is nationwide recognition. he is also a bonafide brainiac when it comes to budget things. you may not agree with what he likes to do with the budget, but he understands the budget. so there is still a place for him...
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i always thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. it didn't cover any other base, any other demographic. would he have been bolder and braver, had he gone for marco rubio or condoleezza rice? somebody a bit different from paul ryan, he looked like a younger version of mitt romney? >> you know, that's second guessing and i don't know. >> the vice president won his home state. >> he's been a district guy, if you will. >> in hindsight, marco rubio may have gotten -- instead of getting 27% of the latino vote, you may have gotten 35 or 40. you still may not have made it. the facts are, we didn't make it. and we had as good a candidate as we're going to -- surely the best candidate in the field. we have a good guy, a good person. a smart guy -- >> who would you like to see in '16 of all the current candidates? >> i'll tell you -- in about 48 hours. >> who's the kind of person? >> marco rubio is an appealing guy. i think he's a centrist. he can deal with changing demographics. >> jeb bush? >> can a bush do it again? i don't know if the coun
i always thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. it didn't cover any other base, any other demographic. would he have been bolder and braver, had he gone for marco rubio or condoleezza rice? somebody a bit different from paul ryan, he looked like a younger version of mitt romney? >> you know, that's second guessing and i don't know. >> the vice president won his home state. >> he's been a district guy, if you will. >> in hindsight, marco rubio may have gotten --...
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. >> reporter: paul ryan is expected to arrive here momentarily, this is his final event of this barnstorm day. it's fitting i'm standing in a barn at the douglas county fair grounds. the republicans say they're the ones with the energy, you see how crowded did is behind me. and if you look at who has already cast their votes in early voting, it is the republicans who are leading. 1.6 million people have already voted. the colorado secretary of state says about 85% of the registered voters will have voted before election day. the republicans leading by 35,000, very different story here than what poppy is seeing in iowa with a. republicans saying they have the energy, the edge, i can tell you from being out here, it is too close to call. both sides really have to reach those very critical independents in the swing state. anderson. >> quick check of three battleground states right there. we're waiting to hear from president obama in ohio any moment now. we're turning our attention ahead to the battle for congress. tom foreman has a unique way to show us how the election could change the sena
. >> reporter: paul ryan is expected to arrive here momentarily, this is his final event of this barnstorm day. it's fitting i'm standing in a barn at the douglas county fair grounds. the republicans say they're the ones with the energy, you see how crowded did is behind me. and if you look at who has already cast their votes in early voting, it is the republicans who are leading. 1.6 million people have already voted. the colorado secretary of state says about 85% of the registered...
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you can assure that if mitt romney and paul ryan had won, they'd say they have a mandate r for imposing the ryan romney budget. the president talked about this issue. he says we need to ask higher income individuals to pay more to generate revenue, as part of the solution. part of the solution along with cuts, to reducing the deficit, so it's not as if this hasn't been an important part of the campaign argument. so we'll have to see how this goes. >> i'll look forward the to talking to you more about it. you know what investors are telling me, you got to go about four times bigger. >> i think the framework of the bipartisan commission is right and it would be great if our republican colleagues would adopt that. people like grover norquist have said that's just a subterfuge to raise taxes on the american people when in fact, it's a balanced approach to getting the job done. >> still to come, the keys to victory. how the president won and the voters who turned against the republican party. tonight, there are warning signs for both sides. john king at the magic wall. the man does not sleep
you can assure that if mitt romney and paul ryan had won, they'd say they have a mandate r for imposing the ryan romney budget. the president talked about this issue. he says we need to ask higher income individuals to pay more to generate revenue, as part of the solution. part of the solution along with cuts, to reducing the deficit, so it's not as if this hasn't been an important part of the campaign argument. so we'll have to see how this goes. >> i'll look forward the to talking to...
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j-o-b-s, job. >> join me in welcoming the next president of the united states, paul ryan.
j-o-b-s, job. >> join me in welcoming the next president of the united states, paul ryan.
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paul ryan and i will bring real change to america from day one. when i'm elected, the economy and american jobs will still be stagnant, but i won't waste any time complaining about my predecessor. >> so that was cleveland, ohio. but mitt romney is now in pennsylvania. i told you they were busy. he wraps up the day with an appearance in newport news, virginia. very busy schedule. and that's president obama arriving a little while ago in south florida. he took issue with his opponent's promise of, quote, real change. listen. >> here's the thing, florida. we know what change looks like. what governor romney is offering ain't it. giving more power back to the biggest banks, that's not change. another $5 trillion tax cuts for the wealthy, that's not change. refusing to answer questions about the details of your policies until after the election, that's definitely not change. >> president obama's next stop just down i-71 from where i'm standing right now. he's going to be in cincinnati, then it's out west to colorado before he calls it a night. >> by wa
paul ryan and i will bring real change to america from day one. when i'm elected, the economy and american jobs will still be stagnant, but i won't waste any time complaining about my predecessor. >> so that was cleveland, ohio. but mitt romney is now in pennsylvania. i told you they were busy. he wraps up the day with an appearance in newport news, virginia. very busy schedule. and that's president obama arriving a little while ago in south florida. he took issue with his opponent's...
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paul ryan and i will bring real change to america from day one. when i'm elected, of course, the economy and the american job market will continue to be stagnant. but i won't waste any time complaining about my predecessor. and i won't spend my effort trying to pass partisan legislation unrelated to jobs and growth. from day one i'm going to go to work to help americans get back to work. and, you know, people all over the country are responding to paul ryan and my five part plan to create more jobs and rising take home pay. part one of that is taking full advantages of our energy resources, our oil, our coal, our gas, our nuclear, renewable. on day one, on day one i'll act to increase the number of leases and permits to drill on federal lands. and i'll act to speed the approval of the keystone pipeline from canada. number two, i will move to boost trade, particularly with latin america. it's an enormous opportunity for us. we need to take advantage of it. and i will finally designate china as a currency manipulator. we all have to play by the same
paul ryan and i will bring real change to america from day one. when i'm elected, of course, the economy and the american job market will continue to be stagnant. but i won't waste any time complaining about my predecessor. and i won't spend my effort trying to pass partisan legislation unrelated to jobs and growth. from day one i'm going to go to work to help americans get back to work. and, you know, people all over the country are responding to paul ryan and my five part plan to create more...
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that, of course, includes their surrogates, everyone from bill clinton to paul ryan to jay-z. yes. jay-z. and we're about to go on a swing state blitz. look at this, correspondents everywhere, for what is happening on the ground here. this day before the election day. stay right there. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper categories. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lower than spdr tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and even lower than vanguard. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 that means with schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 your portfolio has tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 a better chance to grow. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and you can trade all our etfs online, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 commission-free, from your schwab account. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd
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. >> some of you have been successful in convincing your neighbors to vote for paul ryan and me and i thank you for that. and now let's make sure that everyone we know gets out to vote on tuesday. you know, what makes this rally and all your work so inspiring is that you're here because you care about america. this campaign is about america. and about the future that we're going to leave to our children. we thank you and we ask you to stay at it all the way until victory on tuesday night is clear. tomorrow, we begin a new tomorrow. perhaps, some of your friends an family have not yet made up their mind of who they're going to vote for, so when you talk to them, ask them to look beyond the speeches and attacks and ads and to look at the record because you see, talk is cheap, but a record is real and it's earned. change can't be measured in speeches, it's measured in results. and four years ago, candidate obama promised to do so very much, but he has fallen so very short. he promised remember to be a post partisan president, but he's been most partisan. as a matter of fact, blaming and
. >> some of you have been successful in convincing your neighbors to vote for paul ryan and me and i thank you for that. and now let's make sure that everyone we know gets out to vote on tuesday. you know, what makes this rally and all your work so inspiring is that you're here because you care about america. this campaign is about america. and about the future that we're going to leave to our children. we thank you and we ask you to stay at it all the way until victory on tuesday night...
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mitt romney and paul ryan are good men, good leaders. i want to wish mitt and paul and janna and their families well. the american people have spoken. they have re-elected president obama and they have again re-elected a republican majority in the house of representatives. there is a mandate in yesterday's results, it is a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to the challenges that we all face as a nation. and my message today is not one of confrontation, but one of conviction. and in the week and months ahead we face a series of tremendous challenges and great opportunity. just weeks away from now looms the so-called fiscal cliff, combination of automatic spending cuts and tax increases, mandated by law. within months of the fiscal cliff, congress will be asked to raise the nation's debt ceiling. around the same time, legislation will be needed to keep the government running as a continuing resolution underwhich we're currently operating expires. amid all of the short-term hurdles we face the greatest challenge
mitt romney and paul ryan are good men, good leaders. i want to wish mitt and paul and janna and their families well. the american people have spoken. they have re-elected president obama and they have again re-elected a republican majority in the house of representatives. there is a mandate in yesterday's results, it is a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to the challenges that we all face as a nation. and my message today is not one of confrontation, but one of...
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later we'll hear from mitt romney, paul ryan. we're watching all of the candidates on this race to the white house. much more of our coverage right after this. sweepstakes today. mortgage up to five winners will get to skip a year of mortgage payments... courtesy of quicken loans. in other words: absolute happiness! enter often at skipayear.com. 100% new. 100% mmm... wow, that is mmm... it's so mmm you might not believe it's a hundred calories. new yoplait greek 100. it is so good. new yoplait greek 100. when we got married. i had three kids. and she became the full time mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. >>> let's get some more on what's going on. romney's end-game strategy, specifically our cnn contributor ryan lizza joins us. were you surprised when you heard that romney will pay a visit to pennsylvania tomorrow, pittsburgh? ohio, tomorrow on electio
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because if you look just at paul ryan. paul ryan spent a lot of time in colorado. when you look at all the candidates they certainly did. look in this denver area. i'm going to show you why they spent so much time. all four of them in this area. look at 2004. look at these two red counties. the president was able to turn two of these counties blue. they're trying to defend that territory. the republicans trying to take it back. the president and his team trying to keep it. let me show you ohio because all roads lead to ohio. how many times have we heard that? there's a big reason here. look right up here. around columbus and take a look at cincinnati. lake county. this is the suburbs of cleveland. the president has spent a lot of time here. only 2% of the population. why does he care so much? because he's trying to keep that from turning red again. this is 2004 it was red. 2008, the president won here. look at the margin. you look at the top left you can see the margin, that candidate was only a barely squeaker. he'd like to keep that there overall. obviously colum
because if you look just at paul ryan. paul ryan spent a lot of time in colorado. when you look at all the candidates they certainly did. look in this denver area. i'm going to show you why they spent so much time. all four of them in this area. look at 2004. look at these two red counties. the president was able to turn two of these counties blue. they're trying to defend that territory. the republicans trying to take it back. the president and his team trying to keep it. let me show you ohio...
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will it be vice president biden or vice president paul ryan? >> democrats are optimistic there will not be a senate flip to the republicans. democrats i speak to are much less optimistic about the house of representatives and finding any real gains there. what's the situation? >> democrats need to win back 25 seats, a lot of seats to win back control of the house they lost in 2010. democrats aren't really -- there's no bravado there. they say they could do the pick up, but that's very, very tough math. the house race, more than the s senate, will be determined by the wave with of the general election. if mitt romney has a good night, republicans will keep control of the house. if president obama has a huge night, maybe the democrats have a chance at 25 pick up, but it is a long shot. >> tougher than the blue dog states and not doing as well in the moderate states? paul steinhauser, thank you very much for being here this morning. we continue our special election day edition, what polls are opening at the top of the hour and all the implications
will it be vice president biden or vice president paul ryan? >> democrats are optimistic there will not be a senate flip to the republicans. democrats i speak to are much less optimistic about the house of representatives and finding any real gains there. what's the situation? >> democrats need to win back 25 seats, a lot of seats to win back control of the house they lost in 2010. democrats aren't really -- there's no bravado there. they say they could do the pick up, but that's...
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.í♪ sometimes you win ♪ ♪ sometimes you lose ♪r >>> i want to thank paul ryan done and for our country. besides my wife ann, p. trust that his intellect and his hard work and his commitment to principle will continue to contribute to the good of our nation. >> i thank my friend and partner of the last four america's happy best vice president anybody could hope for, joe biden!. 29 past the hour. a stion m studio 8h inj2 rockefeller center. by the way, look who's here. this is huge. >> joining nous ój andrea former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. and msnbc political analyst and visiting professor at democratic congressman harold ford jr. and host of "mad money"nu on cnbc jim cramer. >> and by the way,a ming. andrea mitchell came up to me mika spoken like aieve that for you must win florida and north carolina. >> so how awe? >> i don't think that's true but i'm going to talk lawyerwyers. but thanink that's supporting. >> i think when axelrod on thursday we ought to try and nego new era of oa bipartisanship has begun -- >> yes. could use your diate. >> i dou
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you know how now have paul ryan coming back to the house. he has more credibility, more sway with the conservatives than anyone. and now he's probably running for president. and if paul ryan is running for president from the house, he is going to have no incentive to make a deal with president obama. it's a big deal, and it's a factor that could really mitigate against any kind of a quick deal. >> interesting new dynamic there. mike allen, ladies and gentlemen, mike allen. thank you very much. >> mike, thank you. >> great coverage. thank y'all. >>> coming up, chris matthews and mark mckinnon will be here. also, the reverend al sharpton. republican strategist steve schmidt and margaret carlson. andrea mitchell, thank you very much. she was up all night. up all night. >> thank you, andrea. >> thank you, andrea. and who? bye-bye, cramer. thank you so much. jim cramer, everybody. you're watching the special post-election edition of "morning joe" live from studio 8h. we'll be right back. >>> we have may have battled fiercely, but it's only becaus
you know how now have paul ryan coming back to the house. he has more credibility, more sway with the conservatives than anyone. and now he's probably running for president. and if paul ryan is running for president from the house, he is going to have no incentive to make a deal with president obama. it's a big deal, and it's a factor that could really mitigate against any kind of a quick deal. >> interesting new dynamic there. mike allen, ladies and gentlemen, mike allen. thank you very...
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they made the point that paul ryan's budget would end medicare as we know it. their phrase. it doesn't seem 59 least according to the exit polling to cut too hard. >> we've seen white seniors moving in a republican direction in the last several cycles and if the ryan budget and moving medicare with seniors overwhelmingly opposed was not enough to move them back it really is a generational realignment of older seniors toward the republican party. >> i see you shaking your head, nodding your head because this has been an article of faith. >> particularly democrats in congress as you well know and then they thought this would be the place they could just pummel the republicans and it really -- if we keep coming back to this what we're seeing here is not necessarily an issues election. what we're seeing is an american change of vast proportions and these older people are not worrying as much about their medicare as they are about having a more liberal activist government that is -- that represents minorities and young people and to some degree women. >> okay. we do have some mor
they made the point that paul ryan's budget would end medicare as we know it. their phrase. it doesn't seem 59 least according to the exit polling to cut too hard. >> we've seen white seniors moving in a republican direction in the last several cycles and if the ryan budget and moving medicare with seniors overwhelmingly opposed was not enough to move them back it really is a generational realignment of older seniors toward the republican party. >> i see you shaking your head,...
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ryan, the vp search cha chose paul ryan. he arrived sometime before the governor arrived. the hotel they were staying at is attached to the convention center. i expect he was working on the concession speech. one thing he did say earlier when talking about how he hadn't thought about the other speech, only wrote a victory speech he didn't share it with his top advisers, with ann. something he was going to do anyway and i suspect they were putting on the finishing touches and calling the president. >> what i keep thinking about is seven years, basically, he's been on this quest and as we remember when he went up to the debates every night, he would write on the podium, first word, dad. >> his father, of course, ran for president, was governor of michigan, ran for president back in 1968 was forced out of the race after making an unfortunate comment about being brainwashed by the generals in vietnam. it's been a long journey, matthew dowd, for mitt romney. but i wonder after the seven years has he left any stamp on the republic
ryan, the vp search cha chose paul ryan. he arrived sometime before the governor arrived. the hotel they were staying at is attached to the convention center. i expect he was working on the concession speech. one thing he did say earlier when talking about how he hadn't thought about the other speech, only wrote a victory speech he didn't share it with his top advisers, with ann. something he was going to do anyway and i suspect they were putting on the finishing touches and calling the...
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>> the big problem, david, early on is you had separation between paul ryan and mitt romney. >> well, it was hard to tell. >> the presidential candidate going back and forth so much. it's hard to tell where the differences are for a lot of voters. >> oh, gosh. >> he's baiting me. >> he is. >> unfortunately in this case i agree with you so i can't pick a fight. that was fascinating where paul ryan would come out early and then the romney campaign would run away from paul's position and you just wonder why they select him if they weren't going to use him. if he just with wins wisconsin it's huge victory. >> and he probably won't. i think ed is right. i think he probably wanted to be narrow. i think you'll know a lot by 7:00. i agree with you, virginia is crucial. if obama wins virginia -- >> there's not a path -- >> i don't see it. i really don't see it. and because the polls for all the discussion about nate silver, nate silver is aggregating polls. he's aggregating legitimate polls. >> it's a spread sheet. >> the spread in ohio is not nothing. and people in the obama campaign may be c
>> the big problem, david, early on is you had separation between paul ryan and mitt romney. >> well, it was hard to tell. >> the presidential candidate going back and forth so much. it's hard to tell where the differences are for a lot of voters. >> oh, gosh. >> he's baiting me. >> he is. >> unfortunately in this case i agree with you so i can't pick a fight. that was fascinating where paul ryan would come out early and then the romney campaign would...